o.k.....lets talk about this cd....amazing.....i cant believe the guitar works in it.....the arcepesios (i know i spelt it wrong do beet me down)make it nearly breath takeing-and the bass part on grotque is so buetiful......the lyrics really leap out at you....and sorta starngle you......they speak to you....(or atleast me).....this cd could murder green days "american idiot" crap.....its one of there best to me.